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Strugatsky

Postby dxm73 on Friday, 22 June 2012, 9:12 am

Just registered after recognizing that you seem to know what you're talking about. I agree with a lot of what is said on this site.

At the same time I was stunned I couldn't find any of the work of the Brothers Arkadi and Boris Strugatsky. It seems not many of their crucial works have even been translated into english, which is kind of sad really.

Prime example, check out Roadside Picnic, the basis for the film "Stalker" by Andrej Tarkovsky

I do not know if it has ever been translated, but The Doomed City was great stuff, asking things like how can you be alive and not want to risk anything, not want to find out what is behind current events, live the life of sheep etc. Very fitting for the current age, in my mind.
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doomed_City

Also great: A trilogy carrying on the ideas first laid out in 'Hard to be a god', where humanity is subtly trying to steer more primitve civilizations away from self-destruction, a technique called progressing, while being progressed themselves by 'Wanderers', a mysterious super-civilization with motives you can't even guess at. All this taking place in the Noon universe, called like this after some kind of theory that all civilizations undergo a very similar evolution, starting from "dawn" and progressing upwards (if they don't kill themselves first). Humanity is at "noon" or at least it seemed like this.
Here's the titles in chronological order:
- Prisoners of Power
- Beetle in the Anthill
- The Time Wanderers

I'm writing this from work, so forgive me if I'm not too coherent ;-) Just wanted to point you in that direction, giving that the site and forum search turned up nothing - maybe spelling errors on my side?

Anyway, awesome site, been reading SF+F since forever and just realized how much I have missed- JUST GREAT! :-D

Warmest wishes
David
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Re: Strugatsky

Postby DavidTate on Sunday, 24 June 2012, 1:43 pm

dxm73 wrote:Also great: A trilogy carrying on the ideas first laid out in 'Hard to be a god', where humanity is subtly trying to steer more primitve civilizations away from self-destruction, a technique called progressing, while being progressed themselves by 'Wanderers', a mysterious super-civilization with motives you can't even guess at. All this taking place in the Noon universe, called like this after some kind of theory that all civilizations undergo a very similar evolution, starting from "dawn" and progressing upwards (if they don't kill themselves first).

Welcome, David. Hope to hear more from you in the future.

I've heard of Strugatsky, but I haven't read anything by him. I hope to remedy that.

On a tangent, though, I've often thought it would be interesting to trace the history of the idea of 'progressing' in SF. Various writers have proposed it at various times. Gordon Dickson used it in his (short, bad) novel Wolfling; David Brin made a cottage industry out of it in his (long, uneven, ultimately disappointing) "Uplift" series. That latter also featured the idea of there being a life cycle for species, reminiscent of the "noon" notion you describe in Strugatsky.

Any lurkers out there know of other canonical examples of the idea that the standard way of things is for young species to be manipulated toward sapience by older civilizations?
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Re: Strugatsky

Postby dobara on Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 12:52 am

The Doomed City was great stuff, asking things like how can you be alive and not want to risk anything, not want to find out what is behind current events, live the life of sheep etc. Very fitting for the current age, in my mind.
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Re: Strugatsky

Postby riya11 on Tuesday, 28 May 2013, 7:25 am

I really like your way of expressing the opinion and sharing the information.




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