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Peter Fleming - FALLING TO DESTINY

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Peter Fleming - FALLING TO DESTINY

Postby peter3053 on Sunday, 01 November 2009, 5:23 am

May I recommend to members my new novel FALLING TO DESTINY by Peter Fleming?

Hymoliga Eight (a mobile talking Martian plant), Kim Hawthorne (a space ethicist from the not so distant future) and the mysterious narrator who goes by the name of "Ishmael Starbuck" join together as fugitives through space and time, travelling to Titan, where all art has been banned, to renaissance Finland (where they encounter the alien race known as "sea monks") and to distant Tarsarsus, which is being ravaged by self-perfecting robots called the Pelagyans.

Adventure science fiction with a human touch a good dose of wit.

Check out the blurb at amazon.com, amazon.co.uk or barnesandnoble.com.

Paperback. Great cover great title, fun blurb, great read. It'd look good on your shelf.

It's not every day that a piece of sci fi comes up from Down Under.

Gratefully,


Peter Fleming
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Re: Peter Fleming - FALLING TO DESTINY

Postby owlcroft on Tuesday, 03 November 2009, 11:54 pm

I will leave that post in place, but only so that these remarks have a basis for other readers here. I am irked by the post: it is what someone else here called "drive-by posting", which is richly descriptive. If someone who has established himself or herself as a reasonably regular visitor and poster here has a book published, and wanst to let the board readership know that, there is no harm and some possible good. When an author first manifests here with a self-congratulatory post that is nothing more or less than an ad for the book, there is harm and little or no possible good.

And besides the general principle of posting only to promote one's own book is the nature of the promotion. The first two paragraphs would be only a breach of courtesy, as coming from one visiting here only to self-promote; the ones that follow are inherently irritating. They would be acceptable and reasonable from a dispassionate third-party reviewer; from the book's author, they are . . . well, I daresay everyone sees what they are.

I don't care if this is the greatest novel since Utopia: this is just not how civilized writers promote their works. If it is not already too late, take this as a cautionary example of a very mild response as compared to what you are likely to get if you do the same in other forums.

Also: if it's not "every day", it's often enough:

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Re: Peter Fleming - FALLING TO DESTINY

Postby ellaine on Tuesday, 22 December 2009, 3:20 am

" When an author first manifests here with a self-congratulatory post that is nothing more or less than an ad for the book, there is harm and little or no possible good." and what harm would that possibly pose? This is fairly laughable and provokes me to think whether you truly know what you are writing about or not?


"I don't care if this is the greatest novel since Utopia: this is just not how civilized writers promote their works."
I do hate to break this to you but times are changing and promoting via internet forums is how "civilized writers promote their work"
it is a smart marketing strategy for new writers to attract the target audience and gain recognition
might i also point out that your degrading comment is classified as hatred which i am sure is a violation of the conditions to this website and perhaps you should consider terminating your own account since did agree "not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-orientated, or other material"

on a different note i would like to thank Peter Fleming for this post of self-promotion
thanks to his post i was able to find the book title after searching through many websites
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Re: Peter Fleming - FALLING TO DESTINY

Postby owlcroft on Wednesday, 23 December 2009, 12:34 am

I do hate to break this to you but times are changing and promoting via internet forums is how "civilized writers promote their work"

No, it isn't. It is how uncivilized or ignorant writers promote their work. Some forums are more accepting than others, but go out on one or another of the major SFF boards and do some searching for authors who have committed drive-by self-promotion.

In fact, as an example, here is part of the Guidelines from the SFFWorld forum, a large, respected community:
. . . Members who sign up to SFFWorld to do nothing else than advertise their own products/sites/blogs etc will have their threads removed and membership removed. This may be without warning. Multiple threads of such a type will automatically lead to the membership being revoked and posts removed. . . . The SFFWorld discussion forums are officially a ‘spam-free’ zone. The rule of thumb is that any threads here, whether serious or fun, should be in the nature of a discussion, or exchange of information. Anything else will be removed and memberships revoked.

It is true that if a person has been a regular and meaningfully contributing member of a given forum for at least a while and then gets a book published, he or she is usually welcome to advise the forum members of that fact, though without larding in claims for its quality. The same principle applies to already established authors if they join a forum and post regularly and meaningfully about things other than their own works.

The crux, which you seem not to grasp, is not the promotion as such, but the nature of it: without having previously established "citizenship", as one might put it, and with content that reads like an over-wrought magazine ad for the thing.

If you consider such strictures and such comments "degrading" to the original poster, then consider that readers here consider it degrading to them to be treated--in a place where they come for pleasant and informative exchange of knowledge and opinion--as sheep to be sheared.
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